Ahking

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 2:25:24 PM
keep exploring.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 6:56:18 AM
treehood: of course it is, it's EL&P that put it out.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 6:55:32 AM
nice to see progress in this direction.
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W4YAH

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Florida
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:58:46 AM
Sounds great but what about all those little sea creatures that may get squished in this thing? Sounds like the windmill projects that whack those poor litlle birdies that fly to close.
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NukeAtComEd

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:50:10 AM
just ignore the navigation and the environmental hazards - just like windmills except these are underwater! Oh well, it is "green", it must be good!
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nj2000ng

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:31:48 AM
sounds good.
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treehood

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:51:04 AM
This story reads more like a public relations release while answering very few questions
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ARCO

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:47:29 AM
WOULDN'T THAT BE NICE
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Ticobird

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:42:19 AM
I hope the technological challenges can be overcome so that renewable tidal energy projects become reality.
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ZeroBoxes

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:37:12 AM
If any Maniac would care to tell the new story, I'd love to read it.
"Bert and I, went down to the Cobscook Bay in the Blue Bird II....."
This is a "warm-fuzzy" article; American people involved in new technology which is exportable for a cost.
Now, if we can combine technologies; desalination and electricity from the same water volume area....just brain-storming....and we could add wind mills and/or solar panels in the same area.....and then pearl culturation and then...your turn!
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ted4636

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:35:24 AM
ok
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techque

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:34:57 AM
tides farther north are hgher, so Anchorage's Cook Inlet should be most promising.
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RockCity

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Denver
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:33:58 AM
Deploy, really, perhaps.
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HoosierDaddyKY

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:30:55 AM
Looks promising...
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LostToo

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:28:52 AM
Good Start...
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mitchells

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:28:49 AM
I'm sure people will find a way to block and delay tidal power, just like they like to delay all the other alternatives. Wonder what they're going to use this time, that they are blocking the waves from hitting the rocks?
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TBecker1415

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:28:33 AM
hope this isn't another Solindra (not sure about the spelling).
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ratboy1968

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:27:53 AM
ok
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doncNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:27:53 AM
Another 10 million wasted by the energy department.
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Blue_Cruzer

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:27:00 AM
Sounds good to me.
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BigBrat

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:26:35 AM
ok
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:26:13 AM
ok
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leraar2

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:26:12 AM
wait until the barnacles and other lifeforms gum up the equipment.
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Goatroper

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:25:46 AM
Hey at least it's up and producing.
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valvestem

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Maine
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:25:38 AM
The end user will still get the shaft, not cheap or cheaper electricity.
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mnbeancounter

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:23:44 AM
Waste of taxpayers money
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jh1552

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:23:31 AM
ok
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bozo

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Boston
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:23:06 AM
cost/benefit analysis?
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Einstein47

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Utah
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:22:54 AM
Moon Power
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oldred11

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:22:42 AM
I should have thought a project of this type would have been built years ago. The technology has been available for years.
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ModelWarships

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:21:56 AM
This thing cost many times more than it will ever save. It's so easy to waste money when it comes from taxpayers.
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Goody2317

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:21:06 AM
Good, a way to harness the oceans. This could be a very viable source if done right.
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generok

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:20:20 AM
Well, at least the news source is unbiased. Just tell us the Kwh/dollar invested... that's all. GREAT, you can make electricty from waves, but how much does that energy cost?
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angel4me

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:19:03 AM
great
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2gjh

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North Dakota
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:17:46 AM
Only news for electric car owners
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autohio

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:17:34 AM
Nice
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OGW

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London
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:16:17 AM
Good luck but the Bay of Fundy is in Canada where the highest tides in the world are and not in Maine.
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danreino

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:16:00 AM
Is this done in The Bay of Fundy in New Brunswick too ?
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rosyLI

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:14:14 AM
Will it kill thesaefood? What happens at low tide? What is the cost to taxpayers?
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craigsfrank

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:14:08 AM
Let's just hope it pays for itself.
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RangerBob58

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:12:05 AM
Won't that affect the environment and possibly kill sea creatures? Not very green. Wonder how much this is going to cost tax payers...
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WeasleyOC

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:11:50 AM
This will be interesting to follow.
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matthwbar

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:10:39 AM
Let's see if this works...
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briinnc

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:10:23 AM
Good
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RochBear

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:08:14 AM
the tides are very predictable. Too bad there is a "dead zone" twice a day. And sine the tides come and go at different times during the day (although predictable) there are times when this will not be producing power.
However, I am happy that the DOE is finally investing in something, that appears to be profitable.
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Nickel2005

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:07:22 AM
Another renewable energy source being developed. great
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orphancarguyPE

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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:07:06 AM
Well, sure it costs a lot to build. First step non-standard projects always do. It gets a lot cheaper when you ramp up production and standardize construction. But, its 'fuel cost free' and no carbon either. And its there forever unlike coal, or oil, or natural gas, or even nuclear. Yeah, we ARE running shorter of usable nuclear fuel for conventional reactors. Not going to run out tomorrow, but its just going to get more and more expensive to mine increasingly minute concentrations.
Now, the trick is to do something on the conservation of electricity end so that it will power 200 houses instead of 75. Can be done, just takes vision and commitment. Its called Reduce and Shift Demand, or RASD for short. -stop using conventional electric ranges, and go for induction cooktops, microwaves and propane/natural gas ovens. -stop using incandescents for stoplights, and go to LED. Fraction of the electricity, and they don't have to be replaced regularly. -stop using sodium discharge streetlights, and go to LED or induction lights. Fraction of the electricity and very long lived, with more natural lighting at night. -stop using incandescents at home. I did, and even my halogen and CFL are going as they burn out, and are being replaced with LED. Use almost no electricity and can last decades, in a variety of warm and cool tones--mine have already paid back their higher initial cost with electricity savings...like, 5 watts instead of 60 watts for the same light! -Stop using electric, oil, or propane/natural gas for hot water, and use solar instead. Works excellently for me, works for decades with minimal upkeep costs every 15 years of so (change of glycol antifreeze), uses no power (makes its own for circulating pumps) Run the dishwasher about every day, and lots of hot water summer and winter for washing, baths and showers. -stop using electric baseboard heating, about the more inefficient form of electric house heating there is. If you must use electric, go for wall mounted convection heating units, or infloor. Both make you much more comfortable at lower settings. -Solar air heating panels will cut your heating costs dramatically, whether you use electric, natural gas/propane, oil or wood. Mine cost $3000, bolts up to my south wall with 4 wood screws, weighs 96 pounds, costs less than $10 a YEAR in electricity to run, and saves me $1500 a year (in oil). Works in conjunction with ANY heating system. I live in a Maine-like climate, and the furnace is off spring and fall, and only runs once in a while in winter. A furnace that is off, isn't wasting electricity 24/7 even when it isn't running. -put all your energy vampires (TV, stereos, satellite systems, computers and adjuncts especially printers) on power bars to protect them from surges, but turn the main switch off when they aren't in active use also to save lots of electricity even when they are supposedly 'off'.
I've done all that, and now my average use is 6.6 kw/h a day, down from 20+ in recent times. ie, less than a dollar a day instead of $3-10+ per day
There is also an 'unforeseen benefit' to using wave power in many small installations. It slows down violent wave action, lessening beach/coastal erosion, especially during winter storms or aftermath of tropical storms/hurricanes. It has the same effect of natural kelp beds or coral reefs, and the slightly slower water will allow plants to thrive for natural fish habitat rebuilding.
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Somis1

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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:03:33 AM
I've been reading about schemes like this my whole life--will this one actually work?
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k2kipp

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 8:00:51 AM
interesting
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RamboOn66

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 7:58:24 AM
Salt water - the killer of equipment.
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