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Automakers' new jobs leave many without a chance

Tennessean -- For 29-year-old widow Jennifer Pilch, the journey to a full-time job at Ford’s Michigan Assembly Plant in Wayne included more than 5 years as a temporary worker.

Thousands more — including Paul Roberts, who was laid off for about 30 months — have spent fruitless hours searching online for the 6,500 Michigan jobs the Detroit Three have added since 2009.

Pilch’s and Roberts’ experiences illustrate the hope and frustration of the auto industry’s continuing recovery: For every person who gets a coveted job on the line, hundreds more don’t.

Most assembly line production jobs require a high school diploma or GED, and for the Detroit Three, all start at $15.78 per hour.

In many cases, hourly postings on jobs sites have been kept quiet, giving de facto preference to people who know someone in

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,834 Points:1,638,195 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 7:20:46 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse seems that's a "nice" way to pay back the people who made D3 what it was (doubt it ever will be the same after this economic trouble).
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,671 Points:1,230,030 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:17:59 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse This whole thing stinks! Jobs should be (if qualified) FIRST COME, first hired.
kyjlh Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,751 Points:679,920 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 7:37:30 AM Ignore kyjlh Report Abuse What, the bailout didn't work
EVBuddy Champion Author Nevada Posts:16,835 Points:3,059,295 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 6:15:32 AM Ignore EVBuddy Report Abuse As long as another person gets a job
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,600 Points:2,373,210 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 4:49:00 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse When starting out you have to gain the experience and know how to get higher pay. If you are not willing to work for it, then stay at the lower pay rate or stay at home and have No Job. With Barry's lousy, smoke and mirrors, lack of jobs, dog and pony show and in the crapper economy, the good paying jobs are Not there! Barry can spin the jobs numbers so they look much better than what they really are, he's a smooooth talker if there ever was one! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
tamanite Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:24,102 Points:2,065,225 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:35:19 PM Ignore tamanite Report Abuse If you are really determined to spend your life working for someone else, consider one of the myriad of those in the health care industry. Baby boomers are getting sick left and right and there are never enough workers to care for them all.
rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,700 Points:690,875 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:21:00 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse Go ask the GREAT SAGE OBAMA if the bailout was the answer.
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,866 Points:1,689,490 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:17:57 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse None of this surprises me, especially the hundreds or thousands waiting for a job opening while only a few get them.
OldMoses All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:766 Points:57,925 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:17:29 PM Ignore OldMoses Report Abuse It's always been that way at GM and Ford around Atlanta, if you don't know someone, you won't get hired.
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,769 Points:1,239,365 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:14:45 PM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse Better job training is needed....
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:13:59 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse If you know somebody, you may get the job.
boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,863 Points:416,650 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:13:55 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Honda might be hiring?
theWizK All-Star Author Columbus Posts:876 Points:412,480 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:11:31 PM Ignore theWizK Report Abuse Ok
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,094,825 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:11:09 PM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse What's sad is $15.78 an hour is a good wage for someone with a high school diploma or GED.
Ayeghoti Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,535 Points:369,355 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:09:43 PM Ignore Ayeghoti Report Abuse people might need to chase their jobs overseas
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,705 Points:2,472,635 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:09:35 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse want a job ? It's not what you know, but WHO you know
heartbroken2010 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:4,490 Points:926,210 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:09:23 PM Ignore heartbroken2010 Report Abuse sad stuff here.
76chevy Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,023 Points:779,395 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:09:13 PM Ignore 76chevy Report Abuse "The people I see working steady jobs with no layoffs are those who have created their own jobs. Find a need and satisfy it! " NO! NO! NO!....obama says someone else created those jobs!
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:35,351 Points:2,399,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:08:47 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse this economy is in the crapper
BWJM Champion Author KW Posts:1,113 Points:303,780 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:06:43 PM Ignore BWJM Report Abuse ok
ican2step Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:1,816 Points:453,375 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:05:20 PM Ignore ican2step Report Abuse Okay
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,677 Points:1,886,070 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:02:41 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse I feel for the unemployed. They got the shaft.
tamanite Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:24,102 Points:2,065,225 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:02:03 PM Ignore tamanite Report Abuse The people I see working steady jobs with no layoffs are those who have created their own jobs. Find a need and satisfy it!
robaloma Champion Author Houston Posts:2,736 Points:719,000 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:02:01 PM Ignore robaloma Report Abuse ok
cokezero All-Star Author Philadelphia Posts:830 Points:401,510 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:01:48 PM Ignore cokezero Report Abuse ok
umitb Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:3,829 Points:872,115 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 11:01:43 PM Ignore umitb Report Abuse ok
jorod55 Champion Author California Posts:1,617 Points:459,425 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:57:07 PM Ignore jorod55 Report Abuse Not just Automakers...
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,511 Points:718,710 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:56:12 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Wow...$15.78 an hour! Time to get off the grid and screw employers by learning to work for yourselves. The work involved to drag your ass out to a job for such pitifull wages in a factory is better spent working on the house. Screw em'...Farm it all out to China. Meanwhile we can do things that China cannot do like grow more than enough food.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,817 Points:664,910 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:54:26 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Good job to have if you can get it. I missed my chance due to having to relocate.
txkrb Champion Author Texas Posts:1,597 Points:661,520 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:54:13 PM Ignore txkrb Report Abuse From maninthehat "friends of Koch Bros. " What the hell does that even mean in context of this article
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,446 Points:1,558,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:52:15 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse The auto sector will hire less and less people in the future as robotics and automation replace humans on the line.
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,922 Points:1,243,800 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:41 PM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse That sucks. It should be open to anyone.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:880 Points:151,560 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:41 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse Doesn't look like our Obama dude is doing such a great job with jobs in America
DandyDapple All-Star Author North Dakota Posts:715 Points:330,920 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:26 PM Ignore DandyDapple Report Abuse ...
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,057 Points:1,601,705 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:50:16 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse another sign of a dying economy
itsjustme719 All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:612 Points:618,220 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:49:42 PM Ignore itsjustme719 Report Abuse More job like this are needed for the economy to recover. Companies need to stop sending jobs overseas!
lasriog Sophomore Author Texas Posts:151 Points:356,145 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:46:32 PM Ignore lasriog Report Abuse More jobs for Americans is good, maybe not as many as we would like but at least some auto workers are going back to work
HA4CNN Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,765 Points:1,571,190 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:46:31 PM Ignore HA4CNN Report Abuse The real full time jobs are gone for ever and with it the earnings to support a family.
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:7,739 Points:1,400,015 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:46:12 PM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse Here we go round the mulberry bush!
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,759 Points:1,800,570 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:32:10 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse The fix is in. The Chicago way.
OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,193 Points:1,106,655 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:29:36 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse Bad news.
Blue48 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,450 Points:1,666,620 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:25:54 PM Ignore Blue48 Report Abuse NOT GOOD NEWS!
blk911 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,928 Points:775,290 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:24:24 PM Ignore blk911 Report Abuse No Surprise!
THX138 Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,653 Points:1,038,890 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:21:13 PM Ignore THX138 Report Abuse blah blah blah...what else is new?
44Irish Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,490 Points:521,510 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:19:38 PM Ignore 44Irish Report Abuse good luck
bvrbill Champion Author Eugene Posts:3,445 Points:546,325 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:16:44 PM Ignore bvrbill Report Abuse We need more jobs.
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,347 Points:845,470 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:15:05 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse many ways to get hired, knowing the right people never hurts
AnObserver Champion Author New Jersey Posts:8,494 Points:2,285,480 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:14:13 PM Ignore AnObserver Report Abuse Automobile employment will never be what it was ... but it is better than it might have been
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,224 Points:897,080 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:13:10 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse So why is this different from any other industry. There are not enough jobs to go around in this economy for anyone, particularly if you don't have much of an education.
armey Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,296 Points:310,555 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Aug 1, 2012 10:13:01 PM Ignore armey Report Abuse OK!